Infinity Wave: The Cosmic Easy Button

Kathleen Flanagan (00:01)
Hello everyone and welcome to the journey of an awakening spirit. This is Kathleen Flanagan and I'm your host. And I am here with Hope Fitzgerald today and Hope is a visionary speaker and author as she shares insights on the infinity wave, a powerful 10th dimensional energetic tool revealed to her through life altering visions in 2010.

Discover how the infinity wave can swiftly and effortlessly transform suffering into freedom, especially in today's challenging times. has dedicated her life to developing individuals, communities, and the earth to become beacons of wisdom and inspiration. With numerous appearances on global internet and radio shows, Hope continues her mission of encouraging planetary awakening.

As an intuitive, spiritual healer, dowser, and leader of international trips, Hope brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to her audience. Dive into Hope's new book, The Infinity Wave, an illuminating account of the infinity waves arrival and a practical guide for personal and collective growth. Don't miss the chance to have Hope as a guest on your podcast or speaking event and let transformative waves of wisdom and inspiration flow. Welcome Hope.

Hope (01:20)
That's so nice. Thank you.

Kathleen Flanagan (01:24)
Well, it's so good to have you on the show because we are in a new year and there's a lot of predictions going on for this year as far as lots and lots of changes. And I've got a couple of other people that have got things going on. But I would like the audience to get to know a little bit about your journey of becoming an awakening spirit. And then we will deep dive into the Infinity Wave.

Hope (01:47)
Wonderful, wonderful. So how far back do you want me to go?

Kathleen Flanagan (01:52)
You can go back when when was probably the moment when you felt like your awakening started.

Hope (02:00)
Okay, so ⁓ I was very fortunate that I had a mom who was very open-minded. So she introduced me to things like TM when I was in high school. And so I learned to meditate and that took me down many rabbit holes. Eventually I got to a beautiful, incredible community in Northern Scotland called Findhorn. And I was 21 by that time. And I would say that that was the first time I always say my cork popped out of my head.

Quite an experience. And after that, I just kept studying different religions and philosophies and looking for the commonalities, ⁓ healing and all kinds of things, color therapy, sound therapy, just you name it. I was curious about it and I'd go there, especially very curious about where science and spirituality meet. so fast forward, I was running

⁓ some sound meditations. have a whole bunch of crystal bowls. And so I would play a bowl and we would just silently listen to the bowl and have these meditations for five years. And it tuned me up, I think. and then I had, you know, I was just used to being in that vibration. I really encourage people to, to try that. ⁓ and I was doing all the other things and meditating and all that stuff, but,

I had a ⁓ yearning to move from believing to knowing. And those are my words for it. ⁓ And it's not knowing like a know-it-all. It's that deep gnosis, you know? And I had tons of books on my shelves, you know, all different kinds of things. I had done a lot of work with ⁓ death, NDEs, and all that kind of thing. had... ⁓

It was like since I was in high school, I was interested in the topic. Anyway, in 2010, I had a very, very challenging, painful, traumatic year with, it was a family thing that happened. And by September I was on low ed. knew physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually, was like, it was like one, you know? And that's when things can happen. So.

I decided to go out to the Pacific Northwest to back-to-back sound healing workshops with my wonderful teacher. And I went in with the intention to just scrub all the story away. so practice after practice, I was in there scrubbing and scrubbing and usually asking a question and then getting it answered. And it was absolutely incredible. I got to the last day.

And I felt like I had learned so much, understood so much more, cleaned out so much, but that I still had one niggling question. And so in the last practice, I asked the question and the question was answered in the practice so eloquently, so beautifully and not at all what I expected. And it was, I was so grateful for the understanding of the lesson that I, that it was really pointing to.

that in my mind's eye, I went prostrate on the floor and out of my being sprang the words, I am a willing vessel, do with me what you will. Now I was not in the habit of saying that. And it wasn't from my mind. And I was just sitting there quietly on the bench, but it was profound. And so I was delightfully empty for about three days. I went home.

I didn't have any connection to story. Nothing triggered me. It was amazing. So free. And then I was walking across my living room. My girlfriend was visiting and she had come to find out about my retreat. And as I was walking across the living room, I stopped in my tracks because in front of me was this giant wave of water. It was massive. It was beautiful. It was turquoise and it was moving very, very slowly, but it was...

gigantic. And there seemed to be, I became aware of a little byline that was happening beneath it. And to paraphrase, it said, this wave represents a push of evolution that is coming to the planet. It's going to wrap around the planet for 2011 and then anchor in at the very end of the year. And if you want to evolve more gracefully,

Learn to swim with it. Learn to surf it. Don't resist. So then the wave turns on its side so it looks like a big letter C, you know, like the surfers would come through. And there was a byline with that. As the water moves away from the shore and anchors into the seabed, into the earth to gain its power, its energy to create that crest, the physics of a wave, so should you, meaning me, but

now meaning everybody, leave your book learning on the shore and go to the earth and the wisdom keepers of the earth for your knowledge and mix it with this incoming push. And then instead of the water in the wave just falling back down into the ocean, it turned into this standing figure eight of flowing water. And I don't know if we're on video or not. I think we are. So yeah, it looks like that. That's upside down. There we go.

Kathleen Flanagan (07:42)
We are. We are.

Hope (07:48)
And ⁓ that was about 18 inches high and about 18 inches off the front of my face. And there was no byline with that and it wouldn't go away. And so I walked around for about three days aware that this thing was in front of me and it got a little annoying. So I sat down with my dowsing rods and I said, what the heck, what is this? And can it please go away?

And I was, I'd been a dowser for almost 20 years at that point. And so I have a kind of a way of working with them. It's a little off the beaten track. And, um, and essentially they told me that this represents, it's a symbol representing an extremely high frequency of love and compassion that we haven't had yet on the planet. It's not that it hasn't been around, but we haven't been able to access this yet. Cause I understood Chris.

Christianity, Christ's real teachings at about seventh dimensional. So anyway, this was 10th dimensional. And the idea was that in this watery flow, that love and compassion is inherent in it. It's not something separate. It's right there in the water. And we can use this symbol on ourselves to calm ourselves down, to open us to healing, to open our hearts, to

think better to connect our left and right hemispheres. There's thousands of one uses for this thing, but they were just telling me it's called the, you can call it the infinity wave. And if the symbol itself represents something much bigger, much like any symbol. And then I said, well, okay. And what, what, what am I supposed to do with it? And they said, well, you need to teach it to the world. And I said, no, I don't want to do that.

And they said, you said you were a willing vessel. So I was like, I did. So thing is, ⁓ I really wasn't comfortable, even though I'd been a performer and a producer and a director and a teacher and all many things standing in the front of the room. In my spiritual life, I was sitting in the back of the room, very quiet under the radar. So they were telling me and literally felt a foot in my back.

pushing me that it's time. And so I said, well, you're going to have to help because I don't know what. And they said, okay, you need to create a workshop. So I'm dousing all this. You need to create a workshop and the workshop will be three weekends, one per month. And I said, am I teaching? They said, stay tuned. So I had to pay money to rent the room, all this stuff. I was so terrified. What am I doing?

I like to be a little buttoned up when comes to what I teach. So I had to basically let go. I had to move into don't know mind, which turns out is the best place to be for evolving. And I had to take a leap of faith. And that doesn't sound like much, but I was, I thought I already did have.

that level of faith. No, it's not until you really let go and jump off that cliff hoping you'll be caught. You can be caught. And I was caught. I sat down ⁓ once a week with my friend, same friend to doubt. So I'm like, how, how, am I teaching? And these deep voices, slow voice, you know, it come through me. And I had a, I took a scant view of channeling at that point.

So it was quite the shocker to find this happening and these words coming out that were clearly not mine and entire practices would drop in. And so I would get three and then I ran the workshop quaking in my boots ⁓ and all the practices used the infinity wave and the whole point of this three-part workshop was to take an evolutionary leap. So

They first got us used to being untethered from gravity, then untethered from time. And at the end of the three-month course, I had nine practices. And along the way, I didn't see the rhyme or reason for any of them. But when I got to the end and I looked back, I went, my God, this is a blueprint. If you want to take your next leap, here you go. It's right here.

It was amazing. And the proof was in the pudding because the people utterly changed. it wasn't just the high. was looking, was scientifically, you know, I'm looking at it going, is this a real thing or am I really crazy? And, but they did, they fundamentally changed. People would come in about to get a divorce, stay married for years after. People come in, no work, all of a sudden work would come. Health.

you name it, whatever their issue was, would resolve. But the biggest thing for me was to see the consistent level of an increased joy for living. That's what hit me really right in the heart. Because you know, we always feel good after a weekend. But when you keep it up, when that stays consistent over three months, now, okay, that's interesting.

So I did two more like that. So basically taught from January through September. Some more practices came in. I was learning as we went, building the plane as I was flying, also subjected to this evolutionary leap. And I could feel myself changing. ⁓ At the end of the year in December, early December,

This is how I knew that I really utterly changed. I accompanied a friend of mine to LA because she was having very serious, complicated surgery on her neck, muscle, muscle and nerve. So there were a bunch of doctors in there and you know, any slip of anything you paralyze. it's really, anyway, I said, I'll be your advocate. And so we flew out there and

Miracles, got a five star hotel for about a hundred dollars a night. it was like, you know, all the things were what we call wavy. This is when we travel in the way of good things happen. So ⁓ got her all ready for surgery and we're waiting for the anesthesiologist to come in. That's the last thing before she goes into the surgical room. Of course she's nervous. She had studied how to ⁓ do hypnosis before surgery to.

So she had written down on a piece of paper what she wanted the anesthesiologist to say going in and coming out. And she had it on a beautiful Italian paper. Well, all of sudden the anesthesiologist finally comes in and she's this middle-aged gal. ⁓ She's wearing an unusual surgical cap. You know, they're usually green and they just, hers looked like a little mini pizza hat. It puffed out and had a little red flex on it. It was, you know, very unusual.

And she had a clipboard and she walked around the bed. so I was at the foot of the bed and we were facing each other. She never looked at my friend, her patient. She never looked at me, which doesn't matter, but I saw that there was no connection. And then she just starts looking, she's at her on her clipboard, just rattling away while we're working on the medical ease. I mean, the woman was frozen.

She robotic. And I looked at my friend and I could see her lips start to quiver, ⁓ because everything righted on this for her. And in the past, a year before I would have done something like this. ⁓ Hey, you know what? I, I, my friend is so nervous about this and I'm just maybe let's try to soften her up a little bit. I would have tried to, you know, do something to.

But that's not who I was anymore. Instead, I'm looking at her, no judgment. And that's the change, no judgment. I'm looking at her going, I don't like this picture. I want a different one. And I said the words, I like your hat, without any inflection. At the same time, out of my solar plexus is this pop. And she, her head.

flies up, spins to face my friend and says, hey, babe, how are doing? We are going to have such a good time today. I'm going to take such good care of you. What do got for me? It looks like a recipe. It's on such beautiful paper. Oh, you, oh, you want me to say this? I love to do it. She turned from, she did a 180 in less than a second. And both of our mouths fell open because the change was so dramatic.

from Frozen to Chatticathie, you know, and she did take care of my friend beautifully. So why I'm pointing that out is the way I just knew the ways that I was normally operating, I was no longer operating that way. The infinity wave had come out of my solar plexus at the intensity that was needed for that woman. I didn't say eye intention for the, you know, no.

The infinity wave is an intelligence and it knows what is needed in the moment. And it's very powerful when it needs to be. So I learned so much from that situation that I don't have to be so intentional all the time. yes, but let's rely on this incredible energy and let it lead the way.

Let it open the path. Let it inform us. And I, I'm telling you it, yeah, that's when I knew I'd really, really changed. And then it on from there.

Kathleen Flanagan (18:35)
Well...

Well, I know your story because your story is my story. But I had my affinity wave. mean, 16 years old, I went down the path, did everything that you said, sound therapist, understand that, I don't have crystal balls, but I have Tibetan bells, I have tuning forks, I have all of this and I've done a lot of things. And yes, it definitely increases your vibrational rate to that if you're not ready, it can flatten you on your butt. That's what I do know about.

the sound, it brings you up. And, you know, and I understand all that, but I think what got me when we had the conversation was that I saw that infinity wave in the middle of my living room. I was just standing there looking at the fireplace and all of a sudden there's this massive tidal wave coming towards me, not rushing, not, you know, tsunami kind of thing. was like, whoa, this is huge.

and I had no fear. had nothing. was because I interpreted it to be many different things because water is your emotions. It could be money. It could be a lot of things. And I took it as well. And I took it as abundance because affinity and water can represent abundance as well. So I was like, wow, something's really big coming in and

I'm not afraid. And it was really, really close because this was last year when I actually saw this, like in the beginning of the year, I think it was. I believe that's when it was, was the beginning of the year. Last year was just, it was a year. It was a year. It was not a year I expected, but it was the year that my freedom came in too, because my father passed away and I went down a very dark rabbit hole and I am not that same person anymore. So I.

Hope (20:22)
Hmm.

Yeah.

Kathleen Flanagan (20:31)
and I've opened and created a community that I never thought I would do, because like you, I don't think so, I'm not doing that. Go find someone else. Even though I'm here to serve, no, no, no, not when it's comfortable. When it's uncomfortable, I don't want to do it, because I did everything behind the scenes. I did my best work being invisible. Well, I'm not allowed to be invisible anymore. I'm supposed to come out. And now I just sit here sometimes going, okay, I did it.

I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. I know what to do. I am doing it. But you know, there's that part of our habitual side of our humanness that's like, I don't know what you want. So you're to have to like kind of push me along because I don't know if I want to trust this yet. But I what I get, though, the most was is that this affinity circle ring, whatever you want to call it, wave, it's been a part of my life my whole life.

Hope (21:17)
Mm-hmm.

Kathleen Flanagan (21:30)
It's not something that's new to me. The wave was new. And when we connected and we talked about the wave, was like, whoa, this is powerful because it's all designed for this year. And I know that since the year started, cause I ended up doing a job in Wyoming and my sciatica has been out ever since. Now it's gotten back, but I'm feeling it sitting in this chair. So it doesn't like this chair, but I'm thinking.

Why do I feel so groggy? And I think part of it is I'm getting used to whatever this new energy is. Like this is not like an energy you come in and just, it's the new year, woohoo. It's like, no, this is like subtle, deep, profound, and I'm adjusting to it. Like I'm having to level up to it because I'm like, why are you always feeling so tired? I'm like, but I'm not tired.

Hope (22:17)
Mm-hmm.

Kathleen Flanagan (22:24)
I don't feel tired, but it's calm, very calm. And I don't understand why I should feel that way. And yet I do know why I feel that way. But with the stuff that I'm doing about talking about nervous system, I have, safety has been my word. This is the thing that I've always wanted for people is to feel safe. And...

Hope (22:29)
Mmm. Mmm.

Kathleen Flanagan (22:51)
And since my father's death and really owning what that word meant to me, and, you know, I'm free to walk about the cabin. I'm no longer looking over my shoulder for a perpetrator. All of these things, it's like there's this, like this.

Like it's gone and I'm still adapting to that quietness. And what am I talking about? What it's like to feel safe. What it's like to be in alignment. What it's like to really trust that this is how life has always supposed to have been. And with you talking about the infinity wave, to me it's the same thing. Because your friend's going in for a surgery and yet here you are just, you know.

Hope (23:08)
Mm.

Kathleen Flanagan (23:34)
Okay, let's get this show on the road the way it needs to. And it just happened. And I'm noticing also through whatever that I processed, it's like how we process is so much different with this new energy wave coming in. Like I'm not overreacting. I'm not operating my old way. Like there's days when it's like what you said, I don't even know who I am anymore because this is so not familiar.

Hope (23:54)
Mm-hmm.

Kathleen Flanagan (24:02)
So I would love for you to just go down a little bit more as far as where you see we're going or what this infinity wave means for the rest of us, because I'm in it, I'm feeling it, and I'm experiencing it. But what I'm feeling and experience is going to be so different for a lot of other people. And you've been doing this for what, the last 15, 16 years now? So I'm sure you've got a wealth of information to help people navigate because

The shit's just starting to hit the fan. It hasn't hit yet, but it's coming and it's gonna come. And I just keep going, it's okay, it's okay. Just breathe through it and keep bringing love into the planet. That's all I know to do right now is to trust that and be the beacon and way shower that I am to show people the way back home. Because I think people are gonna be coming to Lightworkers in groves real soon.

Hope (24:57)
Definitely. And so I think that's why we were given it so long ago, so we could start to practice. And they told me to, you know, it's I'm supposed to share it with the world. And I was living in rural Massachusetts next to a sheep farm, you know, like, OK, I don't know how that's going to happen. But, you know, little by little and opportunities came and and, you know, then then we were off to the races.

So little did we know that we were dealing with little waves at that point. And then of course the big waves started to hit and they've been growing ever since. The idea is that first of all, when we introduce high frequency love and compassion into our own fields,

develop a new relationship with ourselves. Most of us are not that good at receiving, especially the healers out there. And we're very good at giving, mothers, very good at giving. ⁓ I don't wanna say fathers, fathers too, it's just kind of, I don't know if it's in our DNA or socialization or both, but we...

when we introduce that infinity wave, that love and compassion, and we are willing to accept it, infinite love, infinite compassion into our beings, it starts to change us because we move into self-acceptance. And when we move into self-acceptance, we move into vulnerability. And when we're able to be vulnerable with one another, that's...

That's where all the intimacy, that's where the juices, that's where the beauty, that's where love enters. And so, you know, the wave is here first and foremost for each one of us. Now, I don't know about you, but I have clients all the time with stories that are really tough, things they were up against.

See, if the wave is here to help us with those evolutionary pushes, because all of those crunchy, difficult times, I call peduncles. It's a word I learned at Finthorn. It's a French word, pedonc. And it means, it's a biology term where the stem of a flower meets the flower. So you're going one way and then you open out.

there's a fundamental shift that happens in a paduncle. You get squeezed and then you open. So you can actually see that in the wave as a ⁓ paduncle is in the middle, right? And you, so you have expansion and contraction. ⁓ going through the tough part, expansion and contraction. ⁓ another paduncle. And I can douse for people where they are on their...

journey. Are you just coming out of a peduncle? Are you going into one? And ⁓ so, but these peduncles, these squeeze points are meant to do what the butterfly does with its chrysalis. It has to work it off. If you help the butterfly off, it does not fly. It has to develop its muscles to get itself ready to fly.

So each of these struggles is something that we lined up before we came in. But the wave can help us so that it's not so hard. And we have programmed into us the idea that change takes a long time and it's very painful. Well, we don't have time anymore. You know, we used to be able to go to a cave or an ashram for three years and do all that. We don't have that kind of time anymore. Everything is speeding up.

So we need something that is quick. And that, and I can tell you, I mean, I gave that demonstration of, when the wave popped over the, that anesthesiologist, she shifted nanosecond. And that's what can happen. That's what happens with me. If I'm in traffic and I'm starting to get annoyed or blah, blah, I'll run the wave on myself first and I'll calm right down. And then I wave the traffic, you know, and it starts to move. And

babies get quiet on an airplane, you know, like there's so many applications that I call the daily wave, how you can use it in daily life. And then there's the evolutionary leap wave, which is what I was talking about earlier. So it calms our nervous systems down because when we're operating from a place of love and compassion, ⁓ we are no longer really tied to 3D. We have access now. You take 10th dimensional, you put it into 3D.

Well, now you're going to have some reaction. You're not going to stay down here. You're going to have access to something else. And we don't have to define what it is, but conversations are going to go better. You're going to feel better about the words you use. Ideas come in. The guides can talk to you, you know, and you have access to things that maybe you didn't have before. So the other thing is that, you know, to go through a peduncle,

is easier if we're in that flow state. If we're willing, if we're not resisting, I don't want to move. I don't want a new job. don't want it. Fill in the blank. If instead we don't resist, we say, boy, this doesn't look good to me. Like this doesn't look like maybe what I thought I wanted, but I'm going to trust and I'm going to wave and I'm going to love myself through it. Then usually something really great happens.

And it's happened, I've seen it over and over and over.

Kathleen Flanagan (31:14)
I know when my father passed, to me it was a very complicated time. And that's what I kept saying because there was such a wave of emotions that I couldn't even filter. was like everything from my whole life popped up, right? And then they just said, it's complicated because I couldn't even shift through what I was feeling at that moment. And then within six weeks, I mean, it was depression, it was suicidal tendencies, it was all the things because this is all old trauma.

Hope (31:43)
Mm-hmm.

Kathleen Flanagan (31:44)
I felt it at 16, I felt it when my mother died and I felt it when my father died because I was feeling them. I was releasing their trauma during their death experiences as well. And I understand that now. I didn't understand it then. Then I'm on, you know, I am doing a book launch for anthology, which what is on the cover, the infinity wave, okay? My father dies the day before the book went to publication in April.

Everything happened in September like 999897, all of these really big numbers when the book launched, when we hit number one. And the month before a co-author said, let's do a podcast. Well, at that moment I'm like, I'll get back with you on that because I've learned not to jump into anything. And I woke up the next morning and I said, okay, and we're going to do this, this, this, and this. And she just went, huh?

Okay. Because Spirit told me what we were going to do. And it was beautiful. This podcast, what we did for four weeks on this book launch was absolutely amazing. So she led the first, I led the first two, she did all the talking and then it came to my side and Spirit said, she's leading the podcast. And she's like, I tell her this five minutes before I said, this is what I was told. You want to have your own podcast. You're going to lead and guide this podcast. This is my turn to talk. And what did I do? I cried.

I cried the whole time for the last two because it's my father, right? But what was interesting about that vulnerability was as I'm crying and being angry of he doesn't deserve my tears and spirit is saying, these aren't tears for him, they're for you and your healing. And it was like the messages that came in, because to me that was an opportunity where the wave was working and not noticing that, noticing but not.

Hope (33:14)
Yeah.

Kathleen Flanagan (33:42)
giving it credit because what did I know yet? I'm just in like this tsunami of emotions and as I started healing, they all come up and they're just like these black phantoms leaving my body as I move through it. That's what it felt like. But I think the whole point was is that I trusted and I navigated this way faster than I expected because within, what was it? It was July 15th. I had lost the show because the network went bankrupt.

Hope (33:44)
Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Kathleen Flanagan (34:11)
And I was like, nobody wants me, nobody cares, why should I live? I mean, it was like this really intense depth of pain and suffering that I didn't even know that even existed. And yet here I am. then for some reason, and I'm navigating, I'm still moving forward, whatever it is, I'm gonna keep moving forward. I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know where I'm going, but I'm gonna keep moving forward. And that was, I just put my head down to do this. And I remember it was July 15th and I saw the tiniest, and I mean the tiniest,

tiniest little dot of light. And I aim for that. And it was amazing how fast momentum picked up from that moment because my show came back up, then I'm doing three podcasts a week because I got involved in another one for aromatherapy. I mean, was just like, was just puff. And when I was on the stage, when we did the book launch, it was, would you tell your avatar? And I said, I can't.

Hope (34:44)
Mm.

Kathleen Flanagan (35:11)
you have to reach, have to ask for help and you have to reach me. I can't find you because you are so invisible and I understand invisibility because that's what I was. I said, all I can do is be the lighthouse, but you have to reach. And if you're there, I'll grab you. And at that moment, knowingness came in, love came in, joy came in, happiness came in. Things that were always words were now embedded so that

Well, it was no longer believing and I hope it was a knowing this like how you introduce the show with is that I always wanted to know and now I do. And it's really hard when you know, you know that nobody can sway you because you know, you know what I mean? I mean, there is just like, it's like boundaries, all of that, all these words that were like, no, they're non-existent because

I know who I am and this and if it was the wave that was contributing to this, bless that wave because this sense of empowerment that you receive. You know, if somebody doesn't like me, like I didn't invite you in, there's the door and don't let it kick you in the butt on the way out because I don't care because I don't deserve that. And it's like, I know I don't deserve that.

Hope (36:22)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Kathleen Flanagan (36:38)
You know what I mean? That knowing that

is so profound and just the things that you're talking about, I can feel that from what you're saying of what this infinity wave does. So how could people get to know you better or find you or whatever? I know we got still 10 minutes, but this is so powerful for people to really be able to understand that are searching because I have a community where people can come and reach, but if they need something a little extra,

You know, maybe to understand that, I mean, I understand it, but you know, this is still about the wave and it's still something new for the world to get. So how would people be able to learn more about you, where to go, what you offer, that kind of thing? Let's keep sharing a few more stories.

Hope (37:22)
Okay, well thank you.

Okay, my website and YouTube and Facebook, all the things are the same. Spread infinite hope.

Kathleen Flanagan (37:33)
I love that, I love that.

Hope (37:36)
Yeah. My husband has always said, we got to use your name in these things. And I'm like, no, don't use my name. So then I figured out I could do it this way because it's not just my job to spread infinite help. It's everybody's job. anyway, that's.

Kathleen Flanagan (37:53)
What a beautiful

name, Hope, and here you are spreading hope. I love it. I absolutely love it. Boy, if that wasn't planned.

Hope (38:00)
Yeah, right.

And I was born on the first day of spring. So hope springs. I don't know my mother. She had already planned years before that if she ever had a daughter, she would name her hope. Anyway, so yes, spread infinite opens how to get in ⁓ to me. And I offer a lot of things, always Monday nights, I offer things and meditations, channeled stuff, know, blah, astrology ⁓ for the month.

Kathleen Flanagan (38:07)
wow!

Hope (38:32)
I have a variety of things and, and, ⁓ yeah, so I'd love to, and I do dowsing sessions for people. I, the good thing is that because I am now comfortably a channel, when I start to douse for somebody, I start to hear words and phrases and see things. And so we're not completely confined to yes and no. So I figured out ways to really go quickly.

to the nugget of the problem. And then I get, you know, these, I get this direction about what would solve the problem and all of that. So we get like in half an hour, turn somebody's life around. And I don't really take full credit for that. It's, I'm totally assisted. So it's just, you know, I try to deliver it well. That's all.

Kathleen Flanagan (39:23)
Right,

I get that, because I've noticed lately with me, because I hear things, so I do readings on people without even doing readings on people. And there are times where I just get this like almost dogmatic about, know, this is really important. And it's like, I understand that you're a control freak and I understand this about you. And I understand this, but I'm telling you, this is what needs to get done, you know?

And it's like, oh, and I'm thinking, why are you doing this? Well, it's because some of these people that I'm having to speak like that are like so tunnel vision and I'm right and I'm this and I know what I'm doing. And it's like, no, actually, you don't know what you're doing because I, I mean, because I know this about myself and because I have woken up and I'm hearing and they're

like really pounding it in that I need to do that. So I trust that. I don't necessarily like the way I deliver, but you know what? It's effective and it gets, they stop. They actually stop because they're like, why are you doing this? And it's like, I'm not doing this. It's like, you should hear what they're doing in my head because what's in my head and when I'm delivering are two different things.

Hope (40:41)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sugarcoating this, believe it or not.

Kathleen Flanagan (40:44)
I

know, believe it or not, I really am trying to make this so I'm not, because I don't want to infringe on your right of free will and free choice. But if there's a message that is so critical and the message she's bringing to the world, this was so critical that she listened to me on it. And it wasn't me she was listening to, it was somebody else who was trying to get it because she's like,

It's going to be just like this. And I'm like, my God, that is not a good place to be.

Hope (41:16)
Well, remember at the beginning I talked about don't know mind and really that if we could all cultivate that comfortably, we would all be evolving all the time. I had a client who's a teacher and the metaphor of shelves lined with books came to mind. was thinking, you know, when you've got so many books on the shelf in your mind, there's no room for a new one. When you turn

yourself into comfort with limbo, comfort with not knowing. All of a sudden, the, of books fly off the shelf, leaving space for something new. But if we're so busy hanging on to the things we know, you know, it's, ⁓ I feel like so unburdened by being able to not know. I don't know. And, you know, we're so conditioned to know things and be, you know, in charge of our thinking and understanding.

No, no, that's not gonna, that'd only get us so far.

Kathleen Flanagan (42:20)
It does only

get us so far. And I agree with that because I've done all the books and all that. And I had a friend years, 20 years ago, like, well, you're so spiritual. Why aren't you doing it? was like, because at that point I was so angry about a lot of things, but it was like, it's all bullshit to me. To me at that moment, there was a time because I had to find my truth within what I was reading. I can't.

be picking out this guy over here and this woman over here and parroting, I had to know. And so I was in that struggle of eliminating the books and what's my truth within it. And that was the beginning of my journey 20 some years ago. Yes, I was angry, but I also wanted to know and believe, I wanted to know that. And so we have to forgive ourselves. We have to be patient with ourselves.

We want to be 7-Eleven and the microwave is too slow, but we are not those kind of people. We are humans. We take time. And gentleness is the biggest thing that I think because being the drill sergeant never got me anywhere. And I know that with this world and people like just push through it, just push through it, sometimes you just need to ease through it. Just sit with it and love you in it. It's okay if you want to be a couch potato for a weekend and

Hope (43:36)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kathleen Flanagan (43:44)
do marathon, whatever. Who cares? The only one judging you is you.

Hope (43:51)
enough.

Kathleen Flanagan (43:51)
because sometimes

we just need to stop because we are on so much information overload. And that's what I love about this infinity wave is because it's almost like it gives us permission to just stop moving and just allow it to flow in like water. It ebbs and flows and just get into the rhythm of that because it's water.

Hope (44:12)
Yes, exactly.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I, you know, the geometry is already powerful. Figure eight, the lemnis kit, whatever. It's so powerful and it can, it can change things all by itself. When you add in the frequency of water and the consciousness of water, which, you know, we're still learning about, but ⁓ I had, I went into a deep dive with the water as because I, when I was trying to understand

Why is it watery? Then I got into Dr. Imoto and then I, know, later on, much later on, ⁓ Veda Austin's work. But I had already come to the conclusion that it was completely conscious and ⁓ would speak to me. And it did. you know, so the water, Dr. Imoto came this close in his books to saying water is God.

Kathleen Flanagan (45:12)
Mmmmm.

Hope (45:12)
But

he did say it, I heard him on a podcast or interview at some point. He did say it. I, cause I knew that's what he was getting at, but he couldn't put it down in words. you know, it's just a little too out there because back then nobody was thinking about water at all. And he really was responsible for making us think differently. So if, if.

If God is in the consciousness of water, which I think it is, and you put that in that geometry, that never ends, never ends. And it moves and it bends and it weaves, and you will always find a fresh start. You will always find something new, you know? And so the combination is so powerful. It's so powerful. it, I mean, number one today,

People are extremely anxious because they can feel that something's going to happen, that we are in the middle of the biggest peduncle of all. Our planet is in a massive peduncle. And so it's kind of like this expectation and it's in the air, you know, it's just there. And then, you know, that anxiety gets sort of, it comes out if, you know, if you have a political feeling this way or a political feeling that way or a...

whatever, pick a topic. And then that anxiety comes out as some kind of control thing. Well, I'm not going to do, and we become rigidified. That's only the duality struggle back and forth. When we introduce the infinity wave, when we introduce that 10th dimensional frequency, we bounce out of 3D and now we're much more malleable.

And as that malleable person, have less judgment. We don't have the need to get into that dualistic struggle. And we actually get calmer. Like you said, we get calm and we can enjoy life even though things are kind of kooky all around us. And the thing to remember is that, I mean, this way, it said to me, it's a...

loving gift from the universe to help us through these times. It's so beautiful and it's so fast that really if we just kind of adopt it on a daily basis everything will go better and we'll have more importantly we will have a better mindset and what you said I say it all the time be the beacon. The most important thing we can do is maintain our beacon hood be those lighthouses

and whatever it takes. So if we start to feel ourselves going down into the dumps because I just heard this news or that news or whatever it is, no, no, no, ⁓ get yourself back into that position of beaming light. The wave can do that. Other things can do that. But you can put it head to toe and wrap it and be any size. You could communicate with the sun, the moon, the earth, animals, trees, whatever with the wave.

But I love when it's wrapped from head to toe because I'm held in the wave and that's what keeps me strong. I'm held in love and compassion. So I'm gonna be there for beaming light. mean, they just, you know, they just go hand in hand, right?

Kathleen Flanagan (48:49)
Yeah, I remember years ago and then we'll close the show, but I remember years ago, things were changing on the planet. We were going up evolutionary and, you know, most of us were hanging on the side of the river with, you know, white knuckles and everything because the white waters are going to kill us and drown us, right? And how many times was I told and all of us were told, let go, let go.

Hope (49:19)
That's it.

Kathleen Flanagan (49:19)
and you're

going, but I'm going to die. I'm going to drown because it's white water, right? And I remember the day that I let go. And this was had to be in the eighties or nineties somewhere in that vicinity. And I let go. And what did I do? I bobbed up. I bobbed. No, I mean, so it's when we hold on and resist is where the pain and the struggle is. And and it is an act of God to let go when you know.

Hope (49:34)
There you go. There you go.

Kathleen Flanagan (49:48)
You're going to die and then discover you're not. But that's what you said, how you entered the open, the show with two is, you know, when you know, you know, and it sounds trivial, like, well, I just had to let go. Well, we all know what that means when we have to let go. We are in crisis mode when we're hanging on and to trust beyond trust, beyond trust, when there's no evidence to prove it.

Hope (49:52)
Exactly.

Right.

Kathleen Flanagan (50:17)
But that's what you got to do to become that beacon of light. Because the more you do it, the easier it gets, the higher your vibrational frequency goes. And then you start attracting more people towards you instead of all the icky stuff that's been around you. And that's the gift that you're bringing. That's the gift that I'm bringing is that we have a lifetime of personal war battle scars.

Hope (50:27)
that.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kathleen Flanagan (50:47)
so to speak,

to know that this is truth. So with that, I thank you so much, Hope, for being here with us today. I really enjoyed our conversation. And everyone, please feel free to reach out to her. I think she's got a wealth of information that could really help and support you on your journey. I also have school.com forward slash I am the light sanctuary. Come check me out. It's free to join and you can start.

coming around people that are like us, that are having conversations, that are needing the help and the support, so you can navigate these rough waters that are coming up, because even for us, these waters are there for us as well, but we're choosing to do things differently and we're willing to show you how to do that. So I will thank you again for joining me. If you found any value, please like and subscribe to the show or give the link to someone who may need this. And I will see you all next Tuesday.

at 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. And from my heart to yours, I hope you have a fabulous week.