How to Take Advantage of the Recent Lunar and Upcoming Partial Solar Eclipses

KATHLEEN: Hello everyone and welcome to the Journey of an Awakening Spirit. This is Kathleen Flanagan, your host, and we're streaming on the Bold Brave TV network. The purpose of the show is to help you realize that you are not alone and that you are in control of your life.

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KATHLEEN: Each week, I start the show. With the sound of the tuning forks bringing in love happiness and balance to set the tone for the show and bring out the best of myself and my guests so let's begin Michael Spremlli's approach to astrology is both unique and practical.

KATHLEEN: He combines his expertise as a therapist and workplace personality expert with modern cutting-edge scientifically validated astrology interpretation techniques. Welcome, Michael.

MICHAEL: Hello, hello. It's a pleasure to be back. Thanks so much for having me.

KATHLEEN: Oh, you're so welcome. I know that everything has done a lot of shifting and changing. I know this has been a very challenging first quarter for me on many levels.

KATHLEEN: And the best part was when Spirit said, I don't want you working or doing anything for the next two months until my birthday, like making money so I could get like all these things that have happened and kind of shown up for me to go, oh, I have holes in my foundation with my businesses and stuff to fix because updates.

MICHAEL: You know when they update websites sometimes they take things and make them disappear or quit working and you don't know it until you go do an investigation but someone once told me once in the tech space updates break things and that has always stuck with me well the ultimate result may be good going through the update never fun but that's kind of true with life too isn't it we go very much and we go through upgrades and it may not be fun while we're going through it but then once you get on the other side it's a different Right.

KATHLEEN: And since my birthday was the beautiful solar...

KATHLEEN: No lunar blood moon eclipse to bring changes. And then I was at an event in Austin last week and this week, and I'm going to Texas or Kansas for a whole different type of seminar. And then I have two more book signings, but in the process, and this is the coolest part, Michael, I think you would enjoy this. My birthday weekend, I discovered that I'm on the shelves in Barnes And Noble in the front of the store.

KATHLEEN: I know. So that was like the best birthday present. So it was so worth it. And thinking about just bringing you onto the show and hopefully we can start getting phone lines where people can start asking questions because that's the goal of the show is to have more interaction. But I want to turn this over to you as far as what you see that we can do to navigate the next quarter of the year.

MICHAEL: So Lots going on, as you said, and you're not the only one who's been getting knocked around a little bit. It's been an interesting three months. We've had planets go retrograde. It's like start and then stop, start, stop. So here's kind of a little framework of what's happening, at least astrologically, in the sky.

MICHAEL: And I always say this whenever I'm invited to speak on a show, and that is your mileage will vary depending on what's going on in your natal chart. What I'm speaking about now are... The major energetic influences that have been rolling around.

MICHAEL: So different people will experience or will have experienced these different levels of intensity, depending on what connects in your chart. So you had mentioned the full moon lunar eclipse. Were you able to go out and view it? Were you out there? Did you see it live?

KATHLEEN: No, we were under clouds almost the whole time. I couldn't believe it.

MICHAEL: I was lucky and I had a really clear shot of the sky and I was outside on my back.

MICHAEL: Porch between like 2 a. m and 3 a. m when it was really rock and roll and it was pretty wild it almost looked like the planet Mars because the moon literally got orange so it was was pretty cool so eclipses whether they're lunar or solar and we've got both to talk about because we have a solar eclipse coming up on the 29th of March but let's talk about March 14th and for those of you who may just be tuning in and thinking oh geez i missed it nah you didn't miss it because eclipse energy lasts for a long period of time.

MICHAEL: So if you think of a new and full moon as being energetic for a week or so, an eclipse of any type, that energy resonates a lot longer. Think of the tuning fork that you started the show with. Imagine it being the size of a Volkswagen and you rang that.

MICHAEL: That's gonna ring a lot longer and louder and have more impact than a regular tuning fork. So that's sort of the analogy I like to use. So eclipses, regardless of where they are or whether they're lunar or solar, it's like a turbocharged energetic event. This lunar eclipse happened on March 14th at 23 degrees of Virgo.

MICHAEL: So we need to look at, well, what is Virgo's energy all about? Because that's what got activated. So a full moon is a time to release, let go of things, let things come to completion. Completion that maybe we've been working on.

MICHAEL: Things tend to come to a head around the full moon, which is why people's energy tends to shift around that period of time, just during a regular full moon. But an eclipse really ratchets up that energy so that we can feel it more intensely.

MICHAEL: Because this was in Virgo, it was very interesting because I've been getting a lot of clients bringing up very similar type of things.

MICHAEL: Where people have been saying, you know, I just don't feel like I'm ready.

MICHAEL: I really, you know, got the book kind of written, but it's not quite ready. Or I don't want to go out and start speaking until I lose 10 pounds. Or I don't feel like I look good enough. Or, or, or, or, or. Well, this Virgo full moon sets the stage for us to let go of all of those limiting beliefs.

MICHAEL: So In order to do that, we need to look at what Virgo energy is all about. From the vibrational astrology perspective, which is what I am, I'm a practicing vibrational astrologer, and we look at things a little differently.

MICHAEL: Virgo is about having this ideal image in our mind of how things should be.

MICHAEL: This is how I should look. This is how it should go. This is what should happen. We're constantly shooting on ourselves, to quote Albert Ellis, which is where that phrase ultimately came from.

MICHAEL: And it's not inherently bad unless we overdo it to the point where we can't make anything happen because we're being super self-critical. So the message, I believe, from this recent lunar eclipse in Virgo is that it's time to declutter.

MICHAEL: It's time to take out the things in our life that are not working, whether it be physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually. What is it that we've been hanging on to as this ideal that may be holding us back?

MICHAEL: So when Virgo gets active, activated. It pulls up all these things of it should be this. It should be that this full moon eclipse is calling us to let go of that ideal.

MICHAEL: Let go of what it is that we think it should be and just be because nine times out of 10, if you've been putting in the work and that's a big caveat, if you've been putting in the work, you're probably ready. Now, if you haven't been putting in the work and you've been eating bonbons and you know, just.

MICHAEL: Sitting at home watching Netflix then you're probably not ready i'm very practical in this stuff you know different astrologers everybody's different they all have different takes on things but if you've been putting in the work it's time to say all right Virgo thank you so much for all your help for getting me to where i need to go to get my ducks in a row or airplanes on the tarmac to launch but now it's time to launch because if we continue to cycle through this ideal without taking any action you're not going to be any further along than where you were six days weeks months or years ago but this eclipse happened in conjunction with a whole lot of other things that's been rumbling around so it back in in Mars in March actually in February Mars finally went direct on February 3rd well Mars is the planet of action well if you felt for the time that Mars was in retrograde, and I don't have the start date of that in front of me, but it went direct in the sign of cancer on February 23rd.

MICHAEL: That's like full steam ahead time. This first three months of the year thus far has been prep time, almost like a cook does mise en place, where you got to cut your vegetables and you got to peel the potatoes and you got to get your spices ready. And people have reported to me like they feel like one foot is on the gas.

MICHAEL: And the other foot is on the brake and based on your smile it sounds like that that's resonating and landing with you but the good news is that energy for the most part should be over now because Mars is direct which means full steam ahead you know if you try to act boldly and move forward in a new direction and Mars is going retrograde that's like and i'd probably use this example with you in the past it's like taking a slingshot but aiming it at your forehead instead of aiming it out at the tray or target that's in front of you.

MICHAEL: And if listeners have felt like they've been banging their head against the wall because I'm trying to take action, but nothing's happening, I don't like blaming things on planetary configurations, but that could be one of the reasons where if you're trying to force action when it was more of an introspective time, that you may end up hitting some roadblocks. But the good news is that is now behind us.

MICHAEL: And with Virgo being able to release things you know let me get specific about that what you know everyone says well you got to release release on the full moon well what does that mean well here's a couple of tangible examples with the eclipse hitting Virgo it's a time to release outdated stuff what are some old habits that you've clung to for maybe many years that served you at one point but now it's like you know what i don't think i need this anymore maybe outdated beliefs that you you've been handed down throughout your life and you realize you know what i can maybe let go of that so this whole idea of Virgo doing its thing and being activated by the moon it's about efficiency and organization and refining details and then letting it go and not just keep refining and refining refining because remember Virgo has this image of what it should be in our head and if we don't live up to that from a Virgo perspective, oftentimes, and I get this from a lot of heavy Virgo clients, people who have a lot of placements in Virgo, it's like, well, if it's not perfect, it's just, it's not worth.

MICHAEL: And I'm sorry, you're wrong.

MICHAEL: Because what has to happen is there is no such thing as perfection. We strive for perfection. We try to do what we can from the standpoint of doing the best that we can. But if we're not willing to realize that, hey, you know what?

MICHAEL: I'm going to put myself out there regardless. I've got a firm enough of a foundation in place to do what needs to be done.

MICHAEL: And i'm just going to take the jump so what ends up happening is if we can let go of those limiting beliefs the i should be this i should be that or this is the way i've always done it that then sets the stage for what is about to come which is the solar eclipse or at least partial solar eclipse depending on where you are in the world to get things in to action so have you felt This energy that I'm describing throughout, I mean, does that kind of summarize where you're at or where you've been for the past, you know, three months, especially during late January, early February?

KATHLEEN: It totally has. And let's talk about that when we come back from a commercial break.

MICHAEL: Absolutely.

KATHLEEN: Welcome back everyone to the journey of an awakening Spirit. This is Kathleen Flanagan, your host, and we're streaming on the Bold Brave TV network. And I have Michael Spermelli in the room with us. And we are talking about what happened in the first quarter of this year. And we're not quite finished yet, but I also want to let you know that you are more than welcome to call us up, call in.

KATHLEEN: And talk to Michael directly if you have any specific questions. And the number is 1-866-451-1451. That is 866-451-1451. So yes, Michael, everything you said, that was my life. I remember when things started feeling like I could move forward. I'm like, okay, March 1st, I can go forward. And it was like, no.

KATHLEEN: You have to wait till the 14th okay and then it was a week later i'm doing this and a week later i'm doing this and a week later and i'm already exhausted and i haven't even and i just started and i'm excited and i feel like i'm ready to move forward because so many amazing things happened over.

MICHAEL: Last weekend that i wasn't expecting where yeah well that was that last last weekend the eclipse the lunar eclipse was behind you at that point because I don't know what the date was, around the 20th, 21st, something like that. And let me ask you this. Did you notice a qualitative shift in the energy? In other words, how things just felt overall last week compared to like the two or three months leading up to this point?

KATHLEEN: It felt, well, I can speak for myself that the messages from Svira just started dropping in like there was no tomorrow. And it hasn't stopped. I mean, it is a confidence that has just like, it's like they take this little raindrop and plop it on my head and then it does this concentric thing. And then I'm given messages left and right and I'm feeling it.

KATHLEEN: And it's like, what are you asking me to do? And it's like, well, you're holding space. It's like, for what? But it didn't matter because I just realized there were so many things that were like shifting and changing from this event that I was at and what I was processing. And then hearing people say things to me like. You're an energy extraordinaire. What?

KATHLEEN: In other words, the energy that I hold is way beyond most people understand. And I've never heard that term before, but I got it because I was around other high energy people, but not like what I do. So yeah, I noticed a big difference. Like it was a calm, quiet, still energy, but really like...

MICHAEL: One of the best kind of energies i felt in a long time and that should continue to evolve as things move forward because as we're ramping up now i want to shift gears a little bit and talk about what we can expect on the new the new moon that is happening and let me get to my notes here because i'm jumping from page to page but that's okay so the new moon is going to happen this So March 29th, there's a new moon slash solar eclipse in Aries.

MICHAEL: Now, again, depending on where you are in the world, you may or may not be able to see this. If you go online and type in lunar solar eclipse map, it'll show you the path. Upper east of the United States, you might be able to actually visualize some of it.

MICHAEL: But most of the United States probably isn't going to see it that much. But that doesn't matter. You don't have to see the eclipse in order to get affected by it. So if full moons are for releasing.

MICHAEL: The new moons are for planting and seed building or seeding of things, ideas, thoughts, whatever activities you want to move into. But we got to back up just a little bit and talk about March 20th, which is the start of the Zodiac. The Zodiac begins every March 20th, where the sun spends about 30 days in each sign and it works its way around the Zodiac. Aries is the first sign of the Zodiac.

MICHAEL: Isis is the last sign of the Zodiac so with Virgo and where the sun has been and that that whole deal was like all right you got the cleanup crew dealing with the stuff that's left over from the previous cycle previous year because remember astrology is nothing but cycles nested in cycles nested in psych and they could go for years or they could go for an hour it's just a matter of how thinly you slice the energy so this is part of that mental tug of war Part of you is ready to go, go, go.

MICHAEL: But then Virgo's stuff is like, we got to clean all this up. We got to get ready to roll. And now this new moon solar eclipse in Aries on the 29th of March is like, okay, if you've got your stuff ready to go, now it's time to make something happen. Because if you look at Aries, you know, traditional definition in astrology is I am, it's who you are as a person. And in a VA perspective, or from a VA perspective.

MICHAEL: That the thing to keep in mind about Aries is Aries is interested in the unvarnished truth whether it's good bad or ugly especially if it's ugly anyone who has a lot of Aries placements would rather know bad news than be kept in the dark so how does that help us how do we work with that with this solar eclipse happening on the 29th the thing to keep in mind is that this is a time for new beginnings.

MICHAEL: It's also only nine days after the start of the Zodiac cycling through its 12-month dance around the sun's dance around the Zodiac wheel. So this is the time to like get going, plant your seeds, put your intentions out there. If you're looking to change careers, now's the time to start the job hunt. If you're looking to get into a relationship, that may be worth it.

MICHAEL: Pursuing you may want to get out of a relationship you may want to start a business it it could be as individualized as there are people out there but the energy is such of new beginnings and because of the eclipse this energy lasts for probably several weeks that gives you the momentum to want to step in to a situation where you're doing something new and you're creating who you are because of the fact that you've got this energy lining up to say, all right, let's move it and make it happen.

MICHAEL: Something else along the lines of the solar eclipse is we have four planets connecting. We have Mars, Venus, Saturn, and Neptune. Okay. So what does that mean in English? Well, it helps us connect abstract thoughts and make them a reality. So if you've got all these thoughts floating around your head about, well, I could do this.

MICHAEL: I may do that. I don't know what i want to do now's the time to step up to the plate and hone in on where you want to go. Make those abstract things more concrete. You could also feel a bit more creative under the influence of this new moon.

MICHAEL: From an artistic perspective, for those of you who are listening who may be involved in the arts, regardless of what your medium is, in addition to really looking at symbolism being an important part of what drives you.

MICHAEL: Because when you take Venus and Neptune and bring those two together, It's like this magical, beautiful, almost romantic in a way, and it can be, type of energy that is setting the stage of what's to come. Now, Saturn and Mercury are in there, and they help things from getting too lofty, meaning impractical, because Saturn takes out anything that is not needed, and it keeps us grounded.

MICHAEL: And Mercury is there to help us connect thoughts and ideas. So if you look at this, and because this conjunction is happening during the new moon slash eclipse, again, this energy lingers for a period of time. So there's lots to tap into during this cycle that is about to come up.

MICHAEL: And it's really a fresh start. I call it a soft reboot every time the Zodiac rolls around to Aries. It's not like you're totally blowing up your life. But a soft reboot is when you kind of hit the restart button on your computer and have things kind of get back to their normal state. So this brings up the idea of it's time to go.

MICHAEL: What are we going to do? And we have free will. I say that probably every day of my life as a professional astrologer. The planets don't make you do anything. It just tells you the weather that you can anticipate to either do or not do something. It is time to get moving. So with this eclipse on the way, you want to take some action boldly.

MICHAEL: Aries is about being bold. You know, there's some of that pioneering energy in there. Start the new project, the new business, the new personal goal. And it doesn't have to be anything grand either. I think a lot of people get disillusioned. It was like, well, I don't have anything going on in my life.

MICHAEL: Well, but you do. That bold action might be, you know what? I'm going to walk an extra two minutes on the treadmill for whatever, you know, or whatever. Habit you want to start or stop. All right. So there's that happening.

MICHAEL: The other thing that's, that you can look at is embracing some independence because your self-expression and your way of connecting with the world, that's all Aries. It's like, here I am, love me or leave me. This is it, you know, without having to put on airs, without being overly concerned of the Virgo stuff that hopefully got cleaned up or starting to get cleaned up from the lunar eclipse.

MICHAEL: The other thing to be aware of is being mindful of conflicts. Aries can get into a little bit of disagreement periodically. And remember, this is going to affect you differently depending on where Aries is in your chart and what's aspecting with it. But this brutal honesty that Aries seeks often gets misunderstood by people as maybe being a little abrasive.

MICHAEL: And that's not where it's coming from. Aries just wants to know, what's the story? Give me the real story. And I can deal with it. So in a zest to want to get that real story, we could be a little abrasive maybe, but well, tell me what's going on. You're talking to someone and you may be losing your patience. It's just that Aries energy wanting to get to the bottom line.

MICHAEL: And then the other thing too, is trust the instincts during this new moon from a standpoint of trusting your inner drive and being aware of new opportunities that are coming. This is all about new. So when you think about the Zodiac in general, it's like everyone sets their quote new year's resolutions for January, which I personally don't subscribe to that.

MICHAEL: The first three months of the year or the first two and a half months is getting ready for your cycle. That's going to start for the entire year. So, I mean, you certainly can set new year's intentions and resolutions, but I like to try to sync things up within reason to the natural Zodiac because it tells a story. The Zodiac. There's a reason farmers plant seeds in the spring rather than the middle of December.

MICHAEL: There's nothing stopping you from planting seeds in December. But what do you think is going to happen if you do?

MICHAEL: They're not going to grow.

MICHAEL: You're not going to get any action. It's just going to be, you know, the way it's going to be. So these are the energies that are predominantly happening based around these two eclipse patterns. We have more eclipses coming later in the year, but you get two right around now. And then the next time we'll be talking about eclipses is in September.

MICHAEL: Where there is a lunar and a solar eclipse not even going to get into that now because that's that's down the road but eclipses do unearth some of this wild energy i'm not saying it's it's dramatic and negative but it gets our attention it gets us to wake up and it sounds like Kathleen that's partly what's happened to you just as you're going through these conferences and you're getting you know new messages and people are telling you things you haven't heard before it's like oh wow I didn't realize I had all this stuff at my disposal.

MICHAEL: And now you begin to do that.

KATHLEEN: Yes, very much so. And I mean, I try to understand what's happening when I all of a sudden, I'm feeling something is like, okay, what is this? And where is it coming from? And I usually, I just have to be with the energy and understand, try to just understand it. And I'm with it. And- But what was interesting is we had, they were teaching us how to create strategic partnerships.

KATHLEEN: So we were doing this little exercise and there were people that I wanted to talk to. And what was so interesting about this, when you say this is it was like, again, the drop came down on my head. I looked at the woman right over, like directly across from me, who's going to be on my show next week. And I said, you and I are talking now.

KATHLEEN: And I go up to her and I said, oh my God, let me tell you what I started in 2008 about sexual healing to help women who want to get back into that aspect of their body and heal from trauma, abuse, that kind of thing. And eventually it'll probably go into men. And so I'm telling her this because she's a dancer. So she does, her thing is about emotional, physical.

KATHLEEN: Conscious awareness kind of thing. You know, it's not just the mind, but it's like, we have body, we have movement, we have other things that give us emotional intelligence, different types of intelligences. And so I was telling her and she's like, oh my God, here we go.

KATHLEEN: And I'm, and she's like, and I said, I started this, but I didn't finish it. And I don't know why I didn't finish it until now. I need you because she's done a lot of research and brought more of the scientific background. To what I'm doing. And she has the movement that I do.

KATHLEEN: And it was like this beautiful marriage made in heaven. And she's like, oh my God, I can see us doing this. I can get this. And what do you mean by this? And then I'm demonstrating. And then she's like, whoa, you're like an emotional, an energy extraordinaire. She's like, I don't have energy compared to you. It was one of those kind of things. It was so funny.

KATHLEEN: But to me, that was like when you said it, it was like an instant. Like everything shifted for me at that moment of like, now I know why I'm here. Now I understand I'm lit up. I got it. And with that, we're going to go ahead and take a quick commercial break. And for those of you who want to call in, our number is 866-451-1451. And we'll be right back.

KATHLEEN: Welcome back everyone to the Journey of an Awakening Spirit. This is Kathleen Flanagan, your host, and we're streaming on the Bold Brave TV network. And I have Mike Spermelli in the room with us today. And if you want to call in, you are more than welcome.

KATHLEEN: The number is 866-451-1451. And I'm going to turn it back over to you, Michael, because I was telling you a little bit about the energy over the weekend and you had something you wanted to share on the air.

MICHAEL: I did. I had a question for you that I just wanted to get your fresh reaction to. And you alluded to this, but when you had these connections and you were talking to this potential partner where you're having her on the show and all this stuff, how did that feel qualitatively compared to what you've been experiencing overall energetically for the past couple of months? Was there a difference?

KATHLEEN: It was, it was real. It was like we had both come together in an alignment in such a way that our energies like melded together instead of feeling the friction back and forth that sometimes I feel with people because I'm like over here and they're over here and you're trying to get like talking and getting into alignment to get like clarity of what you're saying.

KATHLEEN: And it was like, Most of what we talked about, even though I shared a lot of it and then she got clarity, she understood everything. So it was like there was this natural sensation of we're on the same path together. Like this is a oneness idea that we both have that maybe she didn't know she had, but I knew that I stopped it for a reason.

KATHLEEN: And now it's just a matter of finding what I have to start building it again. So so would you say that this type of connection could be described as maybe being on the same frequency yes very much so you were getting what she was oh my God there were so many people that I was able to feel that connected with at this event yeah.

MICHAEL: And I missed them for the first time and and there you know vibrational astrology I don't get too much into the nitty-gritty Theory but But, you know, everything comes down to spin and angular momentum at a subatomic level.

MICHAEL: Literally, there are vibrations that are resonant and work well together. And then there are those that don't. So even if you know nothing about astrology and don't care to, I always encourage people to tune in to how it feels because you felt the difference. And that's the point behind all this. Because if you feel like you're doing something and you're pushing a rock up the hill.

MICHAEL: With your pinky finger that's not too fun you can keep trying to do that and you may make it up there and then it's going to fall and probably you know roll back over you and flatten you like wiley coyote from the bugs bunny era but when we start to realize you first of all you were in a room with like-minded people so that vibration you're you're resonating with each other you're have similar mindsets of course not identical but you're probably mostly all coming from the same place of wanting to do some good in the world, wanting to bring light and hope and the idea of understanding to the world.

MICHAEL: And it feels different. So many people in this day and age, they can't even begin to connect with a feeling. And it's sad because I'll ask something to a client. So how do you feel? And they start with an explanation. I said, no, no. How do you feel? Well, you know, the last time I did this, here's I said, no.

MICHAEL: I'm going to keep beating you up until we get to a feeling because the feelings give us that insider information that only we can have, that you're not going to get from anyone like me or you or anyone, but it's the feeling. And we have that with us, but we got to take the step to start being aware of it and then using that to kind of guide us along our natural path.

KATHLEEN: I agree with that wholeheartedly because people are like, you're so aware of your feelings. He said, I had to.

MICHAEL: I first of all i didn't know how to speak and then i never knew how i felt other than i always felt rage at you know one point in my life that's all i i know that's obviously a feeling and then you know as you know from the work that you do it's well what's driving this what's driving this rate and then usually under the and i'll be interested to see if you if this coincides with your way of thinking you got rage up here which is really high underneath that is usually some sort of fear and then underneath that is usually some deep deep deep sadness and it can get scary when we start looking underneath it's easy to stay in the rage part ah i don't like this yelling at people and whatnot because we're protecting ourselves, at least so we think.

MICHAEL: But then when we start to look at what is going on underneath, we can start to see what might be driving that and then start to clean that up a la Virgo, as we've been talking about, so that we can get to the underpinnings and start to move this stuff through.

MICHAEL: Because I would imagine, and I certainly don't want to put words in your mouth, once you started to get... Through that rage to some of those deeper emotions, that probably was a pivotal shift for you.

KATHLEEN: It was huge. And this was all when I was writing the books, Dancing Souls, when I just wanted to be a better person. Those were the only words I said to myself. I say this over and over and over again. I just wanted to be a better person and not for the world, but for me, because I was tired of carrying the weight. And I may not have understood the rage at that moment.

KATHLEEN: All I knew is that... I wanted to feel whole. I wanted to feel complete. I wanted to have a different life because somewhere something was an inkling telling me, you're in control of this boat. So when did you take control of the boat? And I thought, okay, well, let me just see what that looks like.

KATHLEEN: And yeah, that was not a fun experience, but it was the best thing to do because I gained control of my life and I got to look at like, what you said between the rage and, and then there's the fear and then there's the hurt. And then it goes even deeper than that into, you know, just a totally lost person of, I didn't even have an identity below that feeling, you know, it was like, well, who the hell am I?

KATHLEEN: Now that was a very, very place to move. But once I moved it, everything shifted.

MICHAEL: You know, it's very similar, I think, put it in in the in the physical world of like doing a home remodel home remodels whether it's a kitchen a bathroom or the whole place they are not fun i've been through a couple of them where things they are miserable you are displaced you are uprooted you're living out of a different room in your house if the kitchen's gone you're eating takeout garbage and all this type of stuff it is not a fun time however when you get to the other side of it more often than not it's like ah How did I live without this new bathroom, kitchen, living room, whatever the case is?

MICHAEL: And when you have to take things down to the studs, so to speak, and you will walk into that room and you see wires sticking out of the wall and there's no place to even set a cup of coffee down, it's like, I feel exposed. Same thing I believe happens internally with us when we start to do some deep work.

MICHAEL: What I'd like to do now, if I could, can I share a couple of major vibrations that are going to be active for the collective for the next month or so?

KATHLEEN: Yes, you may.

MICHAEL: Okay. So again, same rules apply. These are slow moving planets, long cycles. They're not going to be necessarily jumping out at you, but if you pay attention to this energy, you'll realize it is there and you can work with it. So a couple of vibrations that are running throughout April, and they'll be here all, most of April, from the 1st through the 30th.

MICHAEL: The 1st vibration, which is where all the other vibrations are built upon, is active with a couple of different... Planetary patterns. So what is the first vibration? This is where it all starts. It's your basic identity, fundamental themes in your life, raw material and building blocks that enable you then do other things.

MICHAEL: So the planets that are active starting April 1st through the 30th is Venus, Saturn, and Neptune. The three of those are all in aspect. So this can bring up energy that prompts you to look. For sincere commitments in romantic relationships, bringing in this dreamy and idealistic component to making sure that there is that true connectivity.

MICHAEL: It can certainly apply to non-romantic relationships where there's personal connection with people. But the idea is with Venus, Saturn, and Neptune working together, it's about looking for that sensitive, dreamy, idealistic component. And remember, wherever Saturn shows up, it cuts out all the nonsense.

MICHAEL: We're not talking about looking for people who you can hobnob with and have bottle service at a club. That's not what this energy is about. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's your thing. But that's not what this energy is about.

MICHAEL: It's about genuine emotional connection, which is kind of interesting that this is where we ended up after all the conversation we've had so far. And this is rumbling around in the background through all of April. So you might be evaluating your... Current relationships, new relationships. But I hear people in their mind saying, well, what if I'm not in a relationship and I don't want one?

MICHAEL: Is this energy lost on me? And the answer is an emphatic no. Remember, it's just energy. How you apply it is what we're talking about here. So for people who might not be in a relationship and it's not in the cards or they don't want it, that's cool.

MICHAEL: You can take this Venus, Saturn, Neptune energy and channel it into something creative because Neptune is magical. Venus makes things that are beautiful and Saturn cuts out all the nonsense.

MICHAEL: So whether you're a poet, a writer a singer an artist or whatever this month of April is very fertile ground for not only connecting at an emotional level with someone but channeling this energy into some type of creative pursuit and these are all as i mentioned they're an aspect for the whole month so you've got a lot of time to capitalize on this particular energy pad let me give you another one here as well Also, for most of the month of April, starting April 1st through the 25th, we have Mercury, Saturn, and Neptune.

MICHAEL: Now, if you notice, the only one thing has changed. We had Saturn and Neptune before, but Venus was there. Well, that's happening, but now we have also Mercury, Saturn, and Neptune all connecting.

MICHAEL: And this is also in the first vibration. So that same definition of basic fundamental themes.

MICHAEL: The raw building blocks that we have to work with that's still in place but with Mercury swapping out with Venus this ups our standards because Mercury connects our thoughts and ideas so high state feelings of high standards high ethical behavior and having sometimes standards that are so high that other people might not be able to meet because we're putting ourselves in a situation where we're able to look at the quote proper way to achieve our desires and what is magical and what's inspirational for us Mercury Saturn helps us connect all sorts of ideas so you may be flooded through the entire month of April with all sorts of things that you might do and that might pique your interest you don't have to do them all you don't have to do any of them but the ideas should be coming at you and it's up to us to then figure out what makes the most sense for where we are and where we want to go.

MICHAEL: And the other thing to keep in mind is you might have a really high standard of a project or plan, and you're working with some people maybe on a team or at work or in your community or at church or wherever, and they may not see the standards that you do. So expect maybe, I'm not suggesting disagreement, but realize that if you're tuned into this stuff, you may really want to ratchet things up to the next level.

MICHAEL: And other folks may not be able to live up to your expectations so you need to work through that because just because you have the clarity and peace of mind of knowing where you're going not everyone else may share that same type of influence and again that's going to be present for most of April and this is on the heels of all this eclipse energy so you can see at this we're moving into a time here where things are starting to move it's like the the the steam the locomotive has been revving up to speed and now it's getting ready to just run wide open and we could jump on board.

KATHLEEN: Wow. It sounds like we got a lot of energy propelling us to get us to the summer months. So that sounds pretty cool. And just being open to receiving all that. So we're going to go ahead and start winding down a little bit.

KATHLEEN: So what I'd like for you, Michael, is let people know how they can get a hold of you so we can go down that road. And then if anybody sends... You know, if I get any questions or anything, I will definitely send them its way.

MICHAEL: So the easiest way to find me is at the website, blueridgeastrology.com. That's blueridgeastrology.com. I do offer individual consultations. I'm actually doing a deep dive on the April vibrations where we're going to discuss probably about six or eight of them that are going on and their various time cycles. Very inexpensive.

MICHAEL: Details are on the front page of the site there. Gives you a chance to ask questions. As far as overall energy and see how things are unfolding. And you can keep up with what I'm doing. I've always got something going on. I do daily updates on the socials. I do a weekly forecast. All of those are completely free again at blueridgeastrology.com.

KATHLEEN: And I want all of you that are listening to know that Michael has agreed to come on the show quarterly. So every quarter, the last Tuesday of every quarter, quarter Michael's going to be on to help us navigate through the next quarter of what we're going through because.

MICHAEL: I have said this is a year of change and it certainly has lived up to what i've said so far and we've only just begun we haven't even started the year and we're already a quarter of the way through the year don't forget remember because we've spoken several times now Pluto is now done with capricorn for good at least in our lifetime unless someone can live 248 years none of us are ever going to see Pluto and capricorn again Pluto is now in Aquarius and that is the great equalizer And it's about new and exciting things and everyone being part of a network.

MICHAEL: So if you just look from a very high overview, 30,000 foot view of the world, look at what's going on. Yes, there's some disruption, but there's also some equalization that is happening where voices who haven't had a say or a seat at the table are starting. And we are just in the infancy of the age of Aquarius because Pluto moves so slow.

MICHAEL: So we're going to see some. Some disruption for sure. But when we step back from this and the historians look back, I think we're going to see that ultimately we're heading in a different place where more democratization exists for everyone to have a seat at the table, however that looks for them.

KATHLEEN: And I love that idea because it's about time, you know, get rid of the us versus them. And it becomes a Spirit of cooperation that we all start acknowledging each and every one of us, that we all have the same values.

KATHLEEN: Very similar values i should say we're all human we all still think and feel and want the same things for our families and regardless of what the outside looks like there's when you strip it all down when you strip it down it comes down to this we.

MICHAEL: All want safety we all want security and at the end of the day even the big burly people big burly guys out there who made it we all want love that's it and then that's where things get out of control because people think well I got to get this. And the people get panicked because when you don't have those things, we feel unsettled.

MICHAEL: So, you know, this truly is the age of Aquarius where we can start to really see some of that. And I'm not Pollyanna. I'm far from looking at the world through rose-colored glasses. But I think we're finally going to be heading in the right direction. It's going to take some time, but we find what we look for. So if we start to look for these connections where people are.

MICHAEL: Connected and viewing each other as hey i need you and you need me it's not a you versus me thing as you mentioned that's when real change can start to happen realizing that no one's out to get you you know we're all just wanting to protect ourselves our family that's very cancerian and then obviously the whole love piece and feeling part of a community that's the that's the secondary element that kind of brings all that together yeah it's gonna be an interesting year Yes, it already is.

KATHLEEN: Yeah, I have totally very well said, Michael. So I want to thank all of the viewers that have stopped by and listened today. I do appreciate that. And if you have any questions or concerns, feel free to reach out to both either Michael or myself. We will be more than happy to answer any questions.

KATHLEEN: And if you found any value, then either like or subscribe to the show or even just give a link to somebody if they need a little bit more clarity about what's happening with them. And if you're struggling with anything, feel free.

KATHLEEN: I do have a 15-minute calendar link on my KathleenMFlanagan. Com site so we can have a conversation to see if you want to work together. My books, Dancing Souls, The Call Awakened, and The Dark Night of the Soul, you can get on Amazon. Com, KathleenMFlanagan. Com, and Barnes & Noble's now. Woo-hoo!

MICHAEL: Yeah.

KATHLEEN: So be sure to listen. Go to my site, look for the list of services and products that are being offered. There is a three-minute de-stress meditation that is absolutely free to you. And that concludes our show for today. And I appreciate all of you so much.

KATHLEEN: And from my heart to yours, I will see you next Tuesday at 4 p. m. Eastern. And I hope you have a fabulous week.

MICHAEL: Thanks so much, Kathleen.

KATHLEEN: You're welcome.