How Do You Empower Yourself

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KATHLEEN: Birgitta Visser is sole, is sole empowerment coach, divine channel and light language healer, delivering messages from the many light beings to the aid of humanity in the hope that people will awaken to what life is all about. Birgitta taps into the timeless wisdom of the ancients. Drawing from a wellspring of inner knowledge amassed over a lifetime though tested by her own trials.

KATHLEEN: She has chosen to rise above emerging as a beacon of light regatta. Now channels this hard won wisdom up light and inspire others. Her profound insights remind us of the strength we each hold within even in our most difficult moments like the ancients. Brigetta has discovered that true power comes not by avoiding our struggles, but by meeting them with courage. Brita's soul is as free as the wind.

KATHLEEN: This adventurous Dutch spirit has voyaged across the globe calling many places home her nomadic blood has led her down unconventional paths, gathering skills and experiences from runaways to bar tops. This chameleon has modeled mixed mixed cocktails and much more.

KATHLEEN: Birgitta follows her intuition allowing it to guide her through life's twists and turns, whether crafting natural soaps, designing jewelry or leading workshops. She nourishes creativity. Though she currently still holds a corporate job. She's an inspiration, reminding us to seek our purpose, challenge our comfort zones and unravel ourselves to live far more authentically.

KATHLEEN: Whenever the compass points next, Britta's bags are packed with an open mind and courage to thrive. She is simply here to offer her words as food for thought in unlocking your our own potential and becoming authentically ourselves while journeying back to the unfolding of the beautiful lotus of the light of who we are.

KATHLEEN: Birgitta encourages us to walk this path with authenticity. Unlocking the truth of who we are meant to be. Her gentle guidance is a candle in the darkness, illuminating the way homeless home to others. Life is like the sound of music. You've got to dance before the music stops and live a little bit before life is over. Welcome for Birgitta.

BIRGITTA: Oh, that was a mouthful.

KATHLEEN: Oh, I know you're the one who wrote it.

KATHLEEN: So I had to honor that. But yeah, I remember talking to you and reading this and going, oh my God. That's exactly how you described your life when we had our little 15 minute conversation many months ago.

BIRGITTA: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Thank you for that intro. That was beautiful and thank you for having me on your show.

KATHLEEN: You're welcome. So why don't you tell the audience a little bit about how about your journey of becoming an awakening spirit?

BIRGITTA: Well, that I did that didn't go over one night's ice. You know, as the saying goes, it took many, many years and many, many experiences often marked by trauma. And you know, we all go through suffering, we all go through pain, but it's ultimately how we deal with it.

BIRGITTA: That sets the tone for, you know, better tomorrows, as I always say, it's really our choice.

BIRGITTA: And it's all about taking responsibility for our lives. Yes. For me, it started like when I was a kid, when I was about 10 years old and I was molested by a friend of the family. Actually my dad's business associate. But what do I know? I'm 10 years old. It's the 19 eighties. Yeah, you don't talk about that stuff. I don't even understand it.

BIRGITTA: And so I just kept it bottled inside and I just walked around with it. And then when we returned to Holland at the age of 13, I was 13, my sister was 12.

BIRGITTA: My dad passed away from coronary heart disease, you know, he did go to the hospital, but then he didn't want to take his medication after that. And he was actually to be truthful with you, Kathleen. He was tired of life. He was 44 years old.

BIRGITTA: And he had to start again. He had a family and he was basically just tired of life. So he hopped on his bicycle and he fell off his bike. It was like taking a last breath and that was it. I just turned 14 and my sister was still 12 and at that age it's tough for any kid.

BIRGITTA: It's tough because it seems so surreal. And I like my sister, we just thought the next day we'd wake up and it's like, oh, well, you know what, our dad will walk through the door. But that was, of course, wasn't going to happen. And so from that point on, I mean, I was already insecure, I carried baggage as a kid but I was also bullied in high school because I was very skinny.

BIRGITTA: And I'm, you know, 511. So I was the tallest in the class and that was really hard for me as well because I just wanted to be invisible. It's tough and I know a lot of kids go through it these days as well. They get bullied in school. And is that really necessary?

BIRGITTA: It really dents someone's confidence even when they exit high school, so to speak, right. When they graduate, it can still affect them. And I remember going on a school camp so to speak to Belgium to the forest there.

BIRGITTA: And there was this kid, very popular kid and, he just grabbed my arm and in front of all the classmates, he was like, look how skinny she is. And that was horrific for me, really horrific.

BIRGITTA: Even after my school years, my mom put me on like this modeling course, just to crank up my confidence because I was walking around like I was carrying the weight of the world on my shoulders and, that didn't work, of course, it was about and like I said, the 19 eighties and 19 nineties very different to how life is today.

BIRGITTA: It's ok to reach out for help to go and see a counselor. You know, kids can go to counseling, but back then it was very, very different and my mom didn't find out about me being molested until I was 19 years old.

BIRGITTA: And that was only because we watched an Oprah Winfrey show on abuse and she just said, I'm so glad neither of you got abused. And so I kept really quiet. And so then it kind of came out. And that was really tough for me because my mom just wanted to talk about it and talk about it and talk about it. I didn't want to, because I'd kept it all inside and I just didn't want to talk about it.

BIRGITTA: When I was about 16 years, she put me on this course and, I was picked out to be a hair model for a show and a hairdresser don't get me wrong is really nice. But I had hair on my shoulders and it was cut into a pixie cut and I felt ugly. I felt so ugly that just did not help me.

BIRGITTA: So, that was really tough for me as well. And even in the modeling industry, I tried to make it. I know I'm a sadomasochist but I really just wanted to make something out of my life and show these people these kids at school. Hey, you know what? I can be someone. Yeah.

BIRGITTA: Well, that's not how it works but, I really had to live and learn and I mean, there is so much, it's a kettle market, it's superficial, it's horrendous the industry and I wasn't thick skinned enough. I was pretty naive and I was assaulted in the industry by a hairdresser in New York. And I kept that bottled up inside as well.

BIRGITTA: It wasn't until many years later that I started my healing journey. But when my step dad passed away in 2000, my mom was leaning on me for support and it was too much for me to handle and he passed away of cancer in the throat. He was really a character.

BIRGITTA: I rolled into drugs and people always wanted to see my happy face and I know that there are many listeners out there where people will go to them for advice and that's it. But when you have a problem, yeah, it's like, oh, people are nowhere to be found because you have to put on your happy face mask and that is ridiculous.

BIRGITTA: So I rolled into drugs because I thought, hey, you know what? They want me to be happy. Let's roll with the crowds. So I did it for like three months and then I suffered from blackouts and everything and I thought to myself, yeah, this is going too far. I cannot be doing this.

BIRGITTA: Yeah, and of course I rolled into dysfunctional relationships. Well, what do you expect? I was totally broken on the inside. So that is exactly what I attracted and I needed that for the growth of my own soul. Yeah.

BIRGITTA: I needed to heal and my guides out there, the universe were really pushing my buttons, but I was a real, real big donkey because I just kept going because my superpowers were starving myself and, working like crazy, all to keep these emotions at bay.

BIRGITTA: And that mind chatter at day and I was very good at it. Very good at it for many, many years. But, I think my turning point came in 2009 when my ex, he was part time crack addict. He's not anymore. But he's turned his life around. But at that point, we were we were thrown together because of the soul contract.

BIRGITTA: We signed up for this dance prior to being incarnated. And we really triggered one another and that was the start of my healing journey because he landed in bed with the Dutch grips, trying to get his next fix and he was held for ransom and helped the police out.

BIRGITTA: And then my mom got me out of Holland in the space of several days. And yeah, so I helped the police out and they found him and they deported him back to the US. And anyhow, the leader of the Crips Of The Dutch Crips called me and he said to me, if I ever find you, he's like, I'm going to kill you.

BIRGITTA: And if I ever find your ex partner, he's like, you will never find him again because he'll be dead in a ditch somewhere. And for me to have my life threatened that really shook me to my core. Because I'd never been in such a situation and I downed a whole box of ibuprofen that night.

BIRGITTA: And, all that did for me, Kathleen was give me a good night's sleep and it eased my headache, but I knew I couldn't live that anymore. And so my mom just said to me, Birgitta, why don't you go and see a counselor? I actually did look and for some people counseling works, you have to do whatever aligns with your spirits and so me, forget it.

BIRGITTA: Yes. So I went to see a counselor, that didn't work for me because at the end of that hour she's like, oh, Birgitta, you know what, you're going to be fine because you're strong enough. Well, actually I was falling apart to be honest with you.

BIRGITTA: And, so I needed to figure out how I was going to tackle this because I was pretty much exasperated and, I actually found a Reiki practitioner and she was amazing, a beautiful soul and she really rebalanced me. And I also studied under her for about 1.5 years doing level one and two.

BIRGITTA: So when I started that journey, I wanted to understand more about holistic healing. So I studied the emotional freedom technique which is subtle, but it's very powerful. It's simple, it's so simple because all you do is tap the emotions out of the trigger out of and then you can just talk about it without becoming upset.

BIRGITTA: So that was really an amazing technique. I became a meditation teacher, studied meditation techniques, studied aromatherapy, gosh, I studied so many different healing modalities.

BIRGITTA: And I was just like a spongebob but do not think that was the end of my experiences and I was like an enlightened being. Oh heck no, no, that way. No, it doesn't work that way. But it was coming. I mean, what I did and I've done that for many people, even for the people that I was in a relationship with, it's all been about how can we fix someone else?

BIRGITTA: How we make the life of another person better? What can we do to make them happy? But now it's looking at ourselves thinking, what makes my heart sing? What makes me happy? Why do I have this incessant need to fix others when I should be fixing and repairing, the tears in my own fabric, so to speak.

KATHLEEN: I know the answer to that question.

KATHLEEN: Yeah, I actually had a psychic tell me with the answer to that question because I like you. I had all those bad relationships and I always went after the wrong people and she said, well, you went after them because you figured if you could fix them, you would fix yourself and it never worked that way.

KATHLEEN: So she said as soon as you start turning and looking inside of you, then everything changes and what you're gonna do is when you see those people, you're going to run the opposite direction and that's exactly what happened. So I understand. We have, our minds are twisted backwards when that anything but don't make me look inside of me because no.

BIRGITTA: Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. But so even from that point on, I started teaching when I was out in St. Petersburg, in Florida. I did my Reiki Masters so I was tuning people after that.

BIRGITTA: I was teaching workshops and, in the meantime, I read another disaster, another beautiful walking disaster as I call it. And gosh, this individual also triggered me and it was someone who couldn't leave me in peace. He had a reckless, bless his cotton socks. He'd lost his mom.

BIRGITTA: He'd never lost anyone. He fell into a depression. I was searching, oh, yes, I was searching for jobs for him. That's the story of my life, right? Because you can put me in the desert and I will always find work. But that is always been my attitude and everyone is different.

BIRGITTA: And so, I was working seven days a week. I was paying his bills because he moved from an hour away to two doors down. He was just very controlling possessive, had the keys to my place and refused to return them, threatened me and it was just going from bad to worse.

BIRGITTA: So I was going back into this fight or flight mode and just running on automatic pilot as I always did and the way dropped off me and it was just ridiculous and my guides up there and the universe is like, Birgitta, what are you doing? What are you doing? You're repeating the same pattern. And I was, I really, really was.

BIRGITTA: But because of that, the upside of that is when we go through these immense struggles, I will always try and find a way forward. And I was very much depressed. I was crying, I was screaming at the universe and I was just often just lying on the floor in the dark at night and just screaming.

BIRGITTA: And finally I learned to listen. I actually learned to listen. And, I got another little bread crumb that I found in the form of my sister telling me to try combo healing, which is shamanic frog medicine. And that was really powerful, physically and emotionally, really powerful.

BIRGITTA: But when I go into something, I do not like to put an expectation on it. So I did my research not too much and I found a licensed practitioner up in the Gainesville area in Florida. And I went, and I've never experienced anything like it because I was sitting there and the shaman asked me, you know, if I had an intent, then he had to start drinking, you know, 2 L of water.

BIRGITTA: And I had this happy yellow big bucket next to me and he burned four points into my leg and put the the frog medicine on it or the frog poison. If you like, and I just, oh my gosh.

BIRGITTA: In 10 seconds, the heat just rushed to my head and it was, I mean, I was throwing up, I was purging, purging and purging and then I had to run to the toilet because it came out everywhere and, the shaman just helped me because I mean, otherwise I couldn't make it to the toilet and it took me four hours, four hours and finally, when it was over, he said to me, do you know why it took you so long?

BIRGITTA: He's like, because normally it'll take an hour or two hours. And I said, no, he's like because your ego was battling so hard to stay in the driver's seat. Yeah, because you're so conditioned, you're so set in your ways that it was just really hard for you to let go.

BIRGITTA: And that was actually really powerful and that is the thing many of us are driven by our egos and it's only because we live in this world, as I always say, we live in this world of comparables comparisons and competing with one another and we are opinionated, we judge one another and it's like her soul is stuck in the trunk of the car and it's screaming like help me, help me and you know, mind the ego, I'll just crank up the volume in the car, and not wanting to listen to the soul.

BIRGITTA: But, what happened to me after that, I went back two more times and it took me two hours at that point, but I made a whole bucket list because my mind was so clear and I made a whole bucket list of wanting to do things like, skydiving because I'm scared of heights. So I did that. Well, I nearly peed in my pants but I made it, I made it back to earth, so to speak.

BIRGITTA: I went hang gliding. I started running for charity because I promised my step dad in 2000 that I would. And, it took me 16 years to start doing that. And then not even two weeks later, I met my former mentor at a fair because my guides were like Birgiitta. They were pretty much kicking me out of the door, and the fair was only five minutes away. And so she was an Akashic record healer.

BIRGITTA: So she delved into past lives. It was very, very interesting because in that lifetime, my ex had poisoned me. And so interesting because she did not know that I suffered from severe stomach issues. There were times where I couldn't even hold any of my food, couldn't even hold a cup of tea. It just came straight out. And so that was karmic and that just needed to be resolved.

BIRGITTA: And it was, but the beauty of that of that therapy, so to speak is that the energy changed within me, but it also changed within Florida and he left me alone. I cannot even tell you how I could just breathe like, that sigh of relief. But it's all about finding these little pieces of the puzzle and how to improve your life. And it's a never ending journey. It really it isn't.

BIRGITTA: I mean, through her, I learned how to channel and channeling was. It's just also really beautifully healing and it's really simple. And people say, yeah, but I can't channel. Of course, you can, all you need to do is just sit down and take a few deep breaths and just have a notepad and a pen and just say to the universe, I am open and ready to receive. Do you have a message for me?

BIRGITTA: Yeah. And rather than being in your mind, just allow for it to flow. And if you're like, well, I'm still taking these deep breaths, but my mind is still chatty and just put on 432 Hertz or 963 Hertz on, meditations on YouTube and that will calm your mind and just go for it. Does it matter if you write one sentence?

BIRGITTA: Oh, absolutely not. It doesn't matter. I started using my cards after that because I just wanted to see what card I would pick and whichever archangel or send it must that would pop up. And I would just ask if they had a message to convey. And yeah, it's just like riding a bike.

KATHLEEN: And those steps are so simple and we think it should be that much more complex when it's not. And, I can do Akashic record reading myself. I know how to do that. I was trained.

KATHLEEN: And what I found is when, before I learned how to do it, when I did have past life crossings with people that there were those issues and just understanding, because the dynamics in that past life are very much the dynamics in the current life.

KATHLEEN: You know, even though the situation and the circumstances are different, the dynamics are still the same and it seemed to help a lot, especially when I was younger of just bringing clarity of why is there this angst between us and why do I love her?

KATHLEEN: And I feel like she doesn't like me when we were sisters and we acted like we were sisters in this lifetime and we were just friends, you know. So that's what I love about the Akashic records is that it does do that. It helps to bring that.

KATHLEEN: And it's as simple as what you said of sitting and listening because that's how I learned how to do it too. I mean, I always heard to really get more disciplined, made all the difference in the world. Well, we're gonna go ahead and take a quick commercial break and we'll see you in just a minute.

KATHLEEN: Welcome back, everyone to the journey of an awakening spirit. This is Kathleen Flanagan, your host and we're streaming on the Bold Brave TV Network and we have Brigetta Advisor in the room with us. So Birgitta, what are you doing today?

BIRGITTA: Talking to you?

KATHLEEN: Well, I know that smart ass, no, you know, I mean, all these things that you learned and took about knowledge and what are you doing? I know that you say you still have a corporate job but you're doing.

KATHLEEN: So what?

BIRGITTA: Yeah. So I have 1 ft in the spiritual and 1 ft in the corporate world. But mind you last year was a trip for me because I was working like 70 hours a week having two full time jobs within the company and I had to push back because I was getting so short. I was suffering from shortness of breath.

BIRGITTA: I lost about 8 kg and I was living in the UK and it was so destroying for me. Absolutely soul destroying. And I had always been sitting on the fence about moving to Spain. It was finally, boom. I just got that nudge to go and people can say yes, the grass is not always greener on the other side.

BIRGITTA: Yes and no, but it was really that push from the universe that I got and I needed to go. I really needed to have that time and space to heal and, just be in that cocoon and do my own thing even. And I, yes, now I have one role within the company and, I do my hours and that's it.

BIRGITTA: I think people don't realize it's like, hey, you know what, what happens if you God forbid you get hit by a bus tomorrow. Yeah. Well, you'll be replaced in the space of several weeks and yet we are so tedious about working, doing our jobs and we're running along this conveyor belt of life, so to speak.

BIRGITTA: But there is so much more to life and I always say it's really about following your passions. Yes, we have this 3d where we have to pay our bills and let's keep a roof for over our head.

BIRGITTA: But that does not mean that we cannot follow our passions and it's something that I really needed to learn. And so now of course, I do my podcast but I've written 1, 2, 3 or four books, actually, two collaborations. The third one, the second collaboration book comes out in August.

BIRGITTA: My second solo book comes out in probably end of September. So it's been crazy, but that does not mean I do not go through difficult experiences. I do, but I'm more consciously aware of them and I do know how to handle myself.

BIRGITTA: Doesn't mean it's easy but, we go through the motions. But yes, I do my channeling. So I still do my writing, which is important, my meditation practice every morning and every evening that is important and people will say, yeah, but, I don't have time to meditate really 20 minutes out of your day in the morning and 20 minutes at night.

BIRGITTA: I don't care if you listen to whatever agrees with your soul. But meditation if you want, if you're just starting out, listen to David G on on YouTube. And he is 20 minute guided meditations on fear, anxiety, confidence, putting the intent out there. And it's really easy to follow.

BIRGITTA: And the beauty about these meditations is that because you're following the breath, you don't get lost in that endless minds chatter. And there's really one very powerful little exercise, which I do not do often enough. And I should because it's very simple because it, takes like 10-15 seconds.

BIRGITTA: It's about grounding ourselves and really being present in the moment, but also being very present within ourselves. Yeah, rather than looking towards the future or living in the past and all you need to do is really close your eyes and just imagine yourself or visualize yourself sitting on a couch behind your eyes.

BIRGITTA: I don't care how you are whatever else. However, the room looks like that doesn't matter. As long as you visualize yourself sitting on a couch behind your eyes and then you envision going down to your root chakra which is at the base of your spine.

BIRGITTA: And then you imagine light coming out or a beam of light coming out or roots growing out of your root chakra and it goes all the way to the center of the earth where it wraps around a beautiful luminous crystal. Yeah, that is charged with energy. And then you allow for that energy to go all the way back up to thre root chakra and through your body and allow that energy to expand within your energy field.

BIRGITTA: And once you feel that right, you are very present within your body in this very moment. And when you are, that is where you have the power to create. Yeah, and manifest the life that you want. Yeah. Because you're in the now.

BIRGITTA: And that is the big difference. So, that's one of the things that I should be doing more often. I talk to people a lot about this. But, yeah. So, other than that, I do channel and I do my light language healing. Yeah.

KATHLEEN: Well, I know that meditation. I've done it a little differently but, it's amazing how much what you've studied is what I've studied. And, that's the one thing is when you take that energy into the core of the earth, you are. So that's the cool part. So you're grounded where you can actually soar and that's how I always look at it because people don't understand.

KATHLEEN: Well, how can you be grounded and soar? It's like, but you have to because if you're soaring and you're not grounded, you're going to get lost and you're not going to find your way back because when you get free of your body like that, you want to play out there because it is such a freeing experience because your head trash is gone.

KATHLEEN: You're in this immense loving vibration that we don't feel in the human world because of the rat race because of what goes on in social media. And this is just that, oh, it's like one of the most coolest tranquil places to be. And so thank you for sharing that with the audience because it's been a long time since I actually did that.

KATHLEEN: And, I know what that's like because it's very empowering because it's like you open your mind to being that little kid that you once were, you go back to play. And a lot of times we forget to play and that's what spirit wants us to do is be happy and joyful and play because the best things come to us.

KATHLEEN: So when I feel like I'm way too much up here in business or whatever, and I feel like something's missing here. What do I do? I go out in the garden and I ground myself into the earth because the earth is going to take care of me and protect me. And it's like all this angst just goes away and then all this new information comes in, that's so exciting.

KATHLEEN: And if it doesn't happen right away, it's ok because that means I have too much up here still going on and I need to keep working through it, but it's about being patient with ourselves. And I think that's one thing that all of us forget that we need to be patient with ourselves there's no crystal wand because if there was, I would have found it, I promise you, I would have found it and I would have shared it.

KATHLEEN: But it didn't happen, we're a work in progress and that's the thing. We're always going to be a work in progress. We're never gonna have everything right here right now. So, being present, you're perfect and where your life is, is perfect because if it wasn't, if you weren't here, you would be someplace else.

KATHLEEN: It's as simple as that you're here for the highest good and the world is always, the universe is always working in your favor. And that nudging about picking up and leaving, I can't even tell you how many times I've done that myself too. And people like, why are you doing it? Because I'm supposed to, why? Because I'm young and I just trusted that and that scares a lot of people to trust implicitly like that.

KATHLEEN: And yet I've never fallen, I've just grown. So, what a beautiful story to share of a life journey that I've had on very similar levels and to just like, oh, this is so my story. This is so nice. Oh, I remember that. I remember I did that. I could do that, you know. So how fun is that?

KATHLEEN: To just kind of come back and play, I mean, so many of us are very similar and we just forget just because you look different and you're tall and skinny and I could be short and fat, which I'm not. But you know what I mean? It doesn't matter what this looks like. No, it doesn't it's what's in our heart. It's always what's in your heart and do what makes your heart sing.

BIRGITTA: Yeah. No, I totally agree with that. And that's the thing I always say to people, you are a beautiful soul and because you're right, it doesn't matter what we look like. It's the light within us that radiates and there is no difference between any of us. Yeah. Sure.

BIRGITTA: Our physical appearance, but the light in each and every one of us is the same and we're here to return to that love for ourselves and each other. And that is the hardest part. You know, my dad, even when I was a kid, he passed in 1988 now. But he used to say, stand in front of the mirror and tell yourself I love you like what, as a kid, you're like what?

KATHLEEN: And you don't feel good about yourself.

BIRGITTA: That is so hard.

KATHLEEN: But it's life changing.

BIRGITTA: Yes, it really, really is. And it's not selfish to love yourself. You know, it's selfless because how can you love others if you can't even love yourself if you've got nothing if your cup is not overflowing, and that is really important because that's self care, that self nurturing that self love, once you start to take care of yourself, your inner world changes.

BIRGITTA: That's true. But your outer world also changes because we're energy. Yeah, we're not just this blob of this, just this body, but we're energy.

KATHLEEN: Exactly. That's exactly right. I remember when I was in my early twenties, I remember going in the bathroom and just saying how much I hated myself. I mean, with all the hate that I had because, to me there was nothing of value at all. And I had to learn that And when somebody said, look in the mirror and say I love you.

KATHLEEN: And it was like, what I can't do that and it seemed like it almost took forever for me to say it. And then when I said it, it was like, it just hurt because all of a sudden when you say that to yourself and you're feeling this love, but it's like, wait a minute, this doesn't feel good to me.

KATHLEEN: But it was a mind changing thing. It started making that difference in how I perceive the world too. Because if I could feel love for me, then that means there's love out there. I can give it out, I can receive it instead of what I was receiving at that point in my life. Well, we're going to go ahead and take a quick commercial break.

KATHLEEN: Welcome back, everyone to the journey of an awakening spirit. This is Kathleen Flanagan, your host and we're streaming on the Bold Brave TV Network. Birgitta. What is one piece of advice that you would offer our audience to help them move into a different direction to achieve their dreams or become a better person.

BIRGITTA: First of all, take responsibility for your life, take accountability regardless if something's happened in your childhood. Yeah, it may not be your fault, but it's still your responsibility for you to how do you say that to take back your I am power and change your life. And I know this from quantum mechanics, it's easy to say, change your thinking, change your life.

BIRGITTA: It's all about shifting our consciousness and healing from our experiences because our experiences are not meant to taunt us. They're not meant to bring us down, but they're meant to help us elevate our awareness and understanding why things happen the way they happened. Yeah. So that you do not sit marred unlike a statue in that victimhood mentality.

BIRGITTA: Because I always say to people, you matter, you're worthy, you have value. Yeah. And you have the right to be happy, everyone has the right to be happy. And that's what life is all about finding that joy within and cultivating that joy.

BIRGITTA: Yeah. So that's my one piece of advice, take that accountability and take that responsibility because trust me, when you walk through that darkness and you make friends with the demons in your hands because we often think they're foes but they're not. And we hug it out. Yeah, we hug it out with ourselves and we learn to forgive ourselves. We show that compassion towards ourselves.

BIRGITTA: And that love and just being gentle with ourselves and it doesn't really matter, Kathleen, what people think of you. I always say what matters is what you think of you and how you feel about yourself. Yeah. Do not be swayed by the opinions of others. It is your life and you need to live it as you see fit and the reason people are so I call that, we live in the land of confusion.

BIRGITTA: Confusion is because we are at a dis ease within ourselves. Yeah. And we need to realign our spirit within our body because hey, come on, our body is the only given home. Yeah, that our soul that our soul actually lives in, that's our home and we have to make it, we have to be comfortable in our own skin.

KATHLEEN: There are so many things you said there that I left my body for three days and I learned what that meant. I knew what that meant because our body cannot function without the soul, our soul, our spirit is the driving force of the body. I didn't shower, I ate a bag of Doritos because I didn't know how to cook.

KATHLEEN: I managed to make coffee because that was just a habit. And that was the extent of three days. And I didn't know that I went on a little journey for three days. It took me six months. So, yeah, when you say that this body is nothing more than a house of our light, that's exactly what it is.

KATHLEEN: And being gentle with yourself is so incredibly critical because everything that we went through leads us up to where we are today. And, if you look back and reflect, you will see that journey of what your reason for being on this planet is for, it takes time. It takes really being honest with yourself and reflecting and as hard as my life has been.

KATHLEEN: And as much as I never wanted to be here, I thank God that I created the life that I have today because it would never have happened this way if I hadn't gone through that because that was the greatest liberating feeling to finally own that I do have value. My life has value.

KATHLEEN: And it's because of the journey within. It's about what you said the journey within being kind, being gentle. Would you treat someone else the way you treat yourself? No. So why would you torture yourself when you would never do that to another human being? And when you start taking that perception and flipping it.

KATHLEEN: That's when you start making the forward movement in your life. When you start looking at yourself as a value because that's what I did is like, would you ever torture anyone like you do to yourself? No. Would you ever tell somebody you hate them like this?

KATHLEEN: No. Then why are you doing it to yourself? You know what I mean? I mean, when you logically think and you have to put logic in here at that moment, everything starts to change because you're not gonna do that and most people aren't gonna do that to you either.

KATHLEEN: I mean, yes, you have some nasty people out there that are into that, but the majority of the people aren't. And the only reason those people were in your life was so you could be where you are today to deliver the message that only you can deliver and give hope to those that you reach.

KATHLEEN: So how can people get a hold of you.

BIRGITTA: And they can get a hold of me through my website, which is Power Soul healing.com. And then I am on, well, I am on Instagram but I keep being restricted or suspended. I have no clue why.

BIRGITTA: But I'm under Universal Night Warriors and then I'm on Facebook as well under actually my own name Birgitta Visser. And then I have my YouTube channel which is under the power so healing. But you know what if you go to my website, you can find all the links there.

KATHLEEN: Well, I thank you so much for joining us today, Birgitta. I just really enjoyed the conversation.

KATHLEEN: You know, the journey that you've been on has not been easy, but you're bright, you're shining, you're laughing, you're happy. So it couldn't have been all that bad. And again, it's all because you took the time and found the value in you to move to that next level. So again, thank you so much for being with me today. I truly enjoyed our time together.

BIRGITTA: Yeah. Thank you so much for having me, Kathleen.

KATHLEEN: You're welcome. So if you guys really enjoyed the show, I would appreciate it if you would like or subscribe to the channel and feel free to give the link to a family member of anybody that you think might help them in their journey because there was a lot of good information that Birgitta gave to us.

KATHLEEN: And if you're struggling with anything that we talked about today, feel free to reach out to me at BraveTV@KathleenMFlanagan.com. I can have this conversation, we can book a time on my calendar and we can just talk about whatever is going on with you.

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